A frequent question that gets asked is, "what is the difference between a limited liability company (LLC) and an S Corp?" There are some structural and management differences between the two which I will address in a future blog post. But for now, I’ll will focus on the tax differences between the two.
First, an S Corporation is really just a corporation that has chosen to be treated as a pass through entity. Meaning profits and losses should pass through to the shareholders, thereby avoiding an entity level tax (and avoiding the dreaded "double taxation." It is strictly a tax election. An LLC is also a pass through entity, essentially a partnership with limited liability properties.
But there are subtle tax differences between the two. For the purposes of this article I will assume for the most part that all owners of either entity also participate in the management of the company, which is how a lot of very small businesses operate.
Retained Earnings
When you employ yourself your salary is subject to a self-employment tax. The self-employment tax is basically the FICA tax you see on paychecks (Social Security and Medicare) plus the employer’s portion. This amounts to 15.3% so it is not a trivial amount, however you get to deduct 1/2 of this as an expense.
In an S corp, if you retain any earnings that amount will not be subject to the self-employment tax. Companies retain earnings to have a cash cushion, to make capital investments, etc. If you retain earnings in an LLC, the owners would still be subject to the tax whether they received the funds or not.
Dividends
In an S Corp, if after you pay the owners a "reasonable salary" there is money left over for a dividend, this amount would also not be subject to the self employment tax. What a "reasonable salary" is varies, so be sure you consult your tax advisor before declaring a salary. In an LLC there are no provisions for dividends. Everything is subject to the SE tax unless the dividend goes to a non-manager/worker owner; in the case of the S Corp the party receiving the dividend can also be an employee.
Misc. Differences
LLC’s are more transparent therefore owners can contribute and withdraw property tax-free for the most part. For S Corps this applies usually only at incorporation unless the contributing owner is an 80% or more owner. For LLC owners, they allow inclusion of LLC debt in basis (to take advantage of losses, if any), disproportionate allocations and distributions.
California Differences
Note that the above differences apply at the Federal IRS level. States may treat the two differently. California treats the two entities slightly different as well. California applies a 1.5% flat tax on all income of an S Corporation. LLC’s have a minimum $800 franchise tax plus what’s called an LLC fee based on gross receipts (not income), which can be seen in California FTB Publication 568 on page 5.
Conclusion
So there you have some of the minor differences. The differences may be minor for some, and may be major for others. In some cases the differences may not even matter if some other overriding factors cause you to choose one entity over another. The key point is that before you sit down and choose an entity, you make the choice based on specific circumstances related to your business or business plan.
I have an art & graphic design business, and don’t have any employees. We do use an independent contractor to help us. What would be better (tax wise)for us to do?….an LLC or an S Corp?
thanks for your help,
Aloha, Terry
Hi Terry,
I noticed you are in Hawaii, the answer to your question based on these few facts would probably be a corporation taxed under Subchapter S. But only a detailed consultation with a business lawyer in your jurisdiction would provide the proper answer.
Hello,
My wife and I live in Nevada and are starting a Internet-based business; albeit focusing on Southern Nevada for now (already have two that are just owner/sole Prep). With the new biz, we are thinking about doing a Corp or LLC, and putting all biz as dba’s under it. Not sure which is best. We do not have any employees…if new biz takes off, we will likely need some down the line…Any suggestions which to do? LLC or s-corp?
THX!
I wouldn’t be able to provide such advice without more information. In addition, I am not licensed to provide any advice to Nevada residents as I am only licensed to practice here in California. I suggest seeking a local attorney, such as the excellent Gina Bongiovi at Bongiovi Law
I started a small trucking company (1 truck, 1 employee) in the North Dakota Oil Fields. I live in California and want to either incorporate or get an LLC for liability protection and tax help. I heard I have to pick one state as the domestic corporation state and one as the foreign. What would you recommend, LLC or S-Corp and what state as the home state. The income is made in ND but spent in CA. My home office and payroll is in CA. I want to keep it fairly simple but want the best benefits. My wife and I will be the owners. If it helps, I will be making anywhere between $300K and $600K a year before taxes and expenses.
Michael, your situation complicated, one that definitely cannot be answered here. There are many questions that need to be answered before such decisions could be made. If you’d like, go ahead and send me an email or give me a call to discuss further.
My husband and I started a small trucking company 8 months ago and we its a LLC. We have one truck and he is the driver of the truck, I gave him a 1099 form. We plan on obtaining another truck next year and hire a Independent Contractor. We had our taxes done yesterday and we were informed we should have made him an employee and paid taxes it would have benefited him more for Social Security. It was suggested that we should change from a LLC to S-corp for tax benefits and no one could sue us and go after our personal assest? I always thought a LLC protects you from someone suring you personally and could only sue the business assests. Whats are your thoughts on switching to a S-Corp?
a thanks joseph for the general post.It seems like your claims are state specific…which is understandable with a state like calif. Its just that if state did notrepresent e cali would be it..understandable why it is broke. Please stick to advise on the rest of the nation…which is not broke. On business advice.
Hi, I’m in NYC and i currently have a “C Corp”. I’m about to partner with a “partnership” to form a new company. They would like our new mutual company to be an LLC. I would like our new company to be a Corporation. Here is the main issue; My company consists of investors (not associated with my C CORP) who I’ll be paying most of the profits to. The profits received from our new mutual company (whether LLC or Corp) will go to my C CORP and then the bulk of that money goes to my investors. I’m trying to avoid being taxed on a bunch of money that doesn’t belong to me. the Investors are also incorporated as their own entity(S Corp Inc.)
Any suggestions on how I should proceed?
Thanks
Mark
good day ,
my sons opened a bussiness as a partnership, now ending and do to some legal matters the one son can not have his name on the bussiness. so if I put the bussiness in my name ( road side BBQ in NY) no employees except one son which way do I go for insurance?
thanks
diane
Hi Diane,
I am only licensed to practice in California, I notice you mentioned you or your business is in New York. This sounds like a simple question (as if any questions are truly simple) someone in your jurisdiction can answer.
JD
Mark,
I am only licensed to practice in California. You should contact an attorney licensed to practice in your jurisdiction.
That doesn’t sound like whoever is advising you is giving you good advice. I can’t give advice like that without entering into a contract for legal services. Feel free to give me a call to discuss.